Subject	It's the price and turnaround time, not the product.
Posted by	Kenny on January 30, 2008 at 12:37 PM
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In Reply To	i guess posting this was not a good idea posted by Alan(NJ) on January 30, 2008 at 12:30 PM
Message	Nobody is really claiming that Ash's product won't do the job. The complaint is that it costs roughly double what T0m's does, and that you had to pay 3-4 months in advance. Recursively Yours, Kenny... PETZ Member #5 You guys rock socks. (Click for pie-chart) Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes. - EW Dijkstra
Follow Ups	AshSpec vs TOM 2.5" IC pipes - Alan(NJ) 08:46:28 01/30/08 Ash's look cleaner, they will be a great product after - John@z1 09:00:41 01/30/08 i agree, maybe thats why theres a price difference (n/m) - Alan(NJ) 09:07:16 01/30/08 Hopefully Ash has them out soon, before Z1 Copy's them lol (n/m) - Eishozzzz 15:20:57 01/30/08 I already have them on my car testing. (n/m) - John@z1 15:25:27 01/30/08 Do both sets have the same inside diameter? (n/m) - Ballistic 09:16:18 01/30/08 VTD... - 550HPTT 09:19:57 01/30/08 no i am not - Alan(NJ) 09:23:28 01/30/08 Are those pictures from TOM himself? - Woody75 (Denver) 09:49:00 01/30/08 i would assume so - Alan(NJ) 09:51:20 01/30/08 Exactly why YOU don't need to start the post... - PCVI 11:37:47 01/30/08 Re: Exactly why YOU don't need to start the post... - Alan(NJ) 12:07:58 01/30/08 If it weren't for all your contradicting posts yesterday.... - PCVI 12:20:49 01/30/08 i guess posting this was not a good idea - Alan(NJ) 12:30:15 01/30/08 Ya think? (n/m) - SeedyROM 12:32:57 01/30/08 It's the price and turnaround time, not the product. - Kenny 12:37:29 01/30/08 yeah but some of the complaints are from people who - Alan(NJ) 12:50:47 01/30/08 You don't have to eat a turd sandwich to know what it tastes - Kenny 12:56:24 01/30/08 lol (n/m) - Alan(NJ) 13:00:21 01/30/08 allegedly 3-4 months, i guess you could say at least (n/m) - gt300zxtt 17:05:42 01/30/08 Almost all replies to your post were constructive criticsm - tya 12:42:42 01/30/08 i said Ash's pipes look cleaner - Alan(NJ) 13:05:13 01/30/08 I have no bias for or against Ash.... - PCVI 12:47:12 01/30/08 i am a supportor for anyone trying to help the Z community - Alan(NJ) 12:53:00 01/30/08 *sigh* (n/m) - PCVI 12:56:37 01/30/08 Fleece* (n/m) - Kenny 12:56:56 01/30/08 Even the lurkers see through you - SeedyROM 13:06:23 01/30/08 I agree that even the casual observer - ZEngineer 13:12:20 01/30/08 lol, thanks George (n/m) - Alan(NJ) 13:16:04 01/30/08 Is either set available for purchase today? (n/m) - SactoTodd 09:24:14 01/30/08 i'm just provided pictures for our eyes to - Alan(NJ) 09:25:59 01/30/08 I'll take that for a 'no' (n/m) - SactoTodd 09:29:12 01/30/08 pretty much (n/m) - Alan(NJ) 09:32:09 01/30/08 It appears so: - RAGTPZ 10:26:30 01/30/08 The TB bends are also different. Ash's possibly allow more - doug8867 09:36:53 01/30/08 Tom's pipes look to be made very well, and his record for - Guapo 09:48:02 01/30/08 TOM Green does great work and is a class act - tya 10:14:39 01/30/08 Re: TOM Green does great work and is a class act - Alan(NJ) 10:16:55 01/30/08 FWIW - tya 10:23:30 01/30/08 agreed - Alan(NJ) 10:26:40 01/30/08 Z1 throttle bodies - tya 10:28:08 01/30/08 nice - Alan(NJ) 10:29:39 01/30/08 Yup (n/m) - tya 11:13:47 01/30/08 excellent (n/m) - Alan(NJ) 11:17:31 01/30/08 still need to port match tho, right? (n/m) - aliaZ 11:28:19 01/30/08 yes - tya 11:29:17 01/30/08 how much? (n/m) - maglito 12:25:55 01/30/08 group buy coming up @ 3ZC store in a couple days. (n/m) - ali300zx 12:28:26 01/30/08 did you get in on the SMIC group buy? - Ahmed 12:30:14 01/30/08 same here :/ - ali300zx 14:24:49 01/30/08 Look here.... - Barry'z (NJ) 13:06:13 01/30/08 I have bigger throttle bodies installed on my car already - maglito 15:17:34 01/30/08 I know, but the prices are listed in those links. (n/m) - Barry'z (NJ) 13:27:17 01/31/08 The powdercoat issue is moot, he'll coat the mild steel. (n/m) - Kenny 10:18:04 01/30/08 I like T0M and Ash - maglito 10:17:27 01/30/08 Eh... - BradZ (FL) 10:22:31 01/30/08 Why would you powdercoat Aluminum? - boileralum 10:38:39 01/30/08 Let's compare price mild steel + PC: Tom = $499, Ash=$900 - Kenny 10:40:34 01/30/08 I'm liking the sound of t0m's more and more (n/m) - awesom-o 10:44:53 01/30/08 Well put. T0M FTW. (n/m) - ali300zx 10:48:52 01/30/08 did Tom ever show any interest in mass-producing? (n/m) - ZEngineer 10:55:01 01/30/08 He's listed them as an available product. Your question is - Bernie (NoVA) 10:59:33 01/30/08 hush you - ZEngineer 11:10:12 01/30/08 lol. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 11:11:10 01/30/08 Sweet - 500 is extremely fair IMO (n/m) - ztunerz 11:22:56 01/30/08 Sounds good to me (n/m) - CarlCuro 22:56:08 01/30/08 btw, do tom's pipes go all the way to the turbo - ali300zx 11:01:15 01/30/08 mine dont. However - tya 11:08:56 01/30/08 good deal. (n/m) - ali300zx 11:22:05 01/30/08 hmmm so clearly ppl have been asking t0m to make pipes - Halo Z 11:27:07 01/30/08 i never once said TOM copied - Alan(NJ) 11:54:56 01/30/08 thanks for answering the question, puppet. (n/m) - Halo Z 12:20:51 01/30/08 :scratches head: whatever (n/m) - Alan(NJ) 12:30:56 01/30/08 Man, Dont even bother anymore with this argument. - eriksu9 13:45:29 01/30/08 thank you, and well worded - Alan(NJ) 13:58:18 01/30/08 Backfire (n/m) - SeedyROM 13:09:29 01/30/08 tell me about it - Alan(NJ) 13:11:40 01/30/08 Let the vendors do their own advertising. - ZiNnYc 13:20:19 01/30/08 yeah i learned my lesson (n/m) - Alan(NJ) 13:21:47 01/30/08 You're right, TT.net is full of idiots - SeedyROM 13:38:46 01/30/08 just keep in mind: "Good people make mistakes too" - SR (n/m) - ZEngineer 13:40:52 01/30/08 Good people make up for them with results, no excuses. (n/m) - Kenny 13:46:01 01/30/08 i dont make excuses for Ash - Alan(NJ) 14:24:26 01/30/08 But smart people learn from them. Have you learned George? - SeedyROM 13:47:32 01/30/08 i learned to keep my mouth shut on controversial topics - Alan(NJ) 14:17:52 01/30/08 Well, I didnt say idiots persay - ZiNnYc 13:49:08 01/30/08 agreed - Alan(NJ) 14:06:02 01/30/08 Takes a big man to admit he's an idiot - SeedyROM 14:30:03 01/30/08 you are correct in all your points and you brought up - Alan(NJ) 14:35:03 01/30/08 Have you proven Ash to be a crook? - ZiNnYc 14:57:48 01/30/08 Not Ash, but many others - SeedyROM 16:34:47 01/30/08 just for the record - Alan(NJ) 15:31:07 01/30/08
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